Novak Conversions Jeep Wrangler JK radiators

Lighting bolt and loss of power

One thing they mention is that the "sensor problem" might not be a sensor. It could be wiring, and that would not be resolved by swapping out sensors. The idea seems like a reasonable diagnostic, but the dealer rates are commonly higher.
The only way I could see this as reasonable for a dealer is if they are working on a current model (not applicable in this case) or just happen to have another equivalent JK on the lot at the time.
 
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One thing they mention is that the "sensor problem" might not be a sensor. It could be wiring, and that would not be resolved by swapping out sensors. The idea seems like a reasonable diagnostic, but the dealer rates are commonly higher.
Not to mention that a replacement for that portion of the wire harness is only $70.
 
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The only way I could see this as reasonable for a dealer is if they are working on a current model (not applicable in this case) or just happen to have another equivalent JK on the lot at the time.
Agreed.
Let’s do the math here:
Remove MY sensor - labor
Remove TEST sensor - labor
Install TEST sensor - labor
Remove TEST sensor - labor
Reinstall MY sensor (or a new one) - labor
Reinstall TEST sensor - labor

As compared to remove MY sensor and replace with a NEW sensor.

Their approach isn’t without merit to diagnose the problem, it’s just labor intensive and can they literally just remove a sensor from another vehicle, try it in a vehicle that could damage said sensor, then return it to the donor vehicle?

I wouldn’t allow them to use my vehicle as a troubleshooting tool for someone else’s issue.

They should be able to remove the sensor in question and test it.

The kicker here is that I challenged the service manager on this and he said “Since it only takes a few minutes to pull and swap a sensor, this is a very reasonable approach.”

I then asked him “If it only takes a few minutes, why do you charge a full hour to replace one?” 🤔
 
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Have to chime in here on the rear axle seal. Do yourself a favor and replace the rear axle with a set of chromoly axles. I just did my 2011 Rubicon with a set from Yukon. Unbeknownst to me my rear stock shafts were slightly bent and slowly leaking. It's a common problem and one that eventually happens to all of us with higher mileage (mine has 120k). Ordered a set from Yukon and made sure they came fully assembled (they ship unassembled but you can buy them from places who will assemble and ship them to you). Made a HUGE difference on the road (didn't realize how bad the shimmy was in the rear) and the installation was easy...like one day with hand tools easy. The stock seal pops right out of the axle tube and the new Yukon shafts have the new seal already pressed on. They're less expensive than OEM and something like 2.5X stronger. Your call whether you pull the diff cover off completely and get it all cleaned out or you can just pull both plugs and change the fluid yourself as part of the job.

Brakes and rotors are easy and something you defiantly can do yourself. I did my e-brake shoes while I was in there (much easier while the axle is out) so it made the whole job a little more lengthly.

I do like to use OEM brake shoes and rotors (have had good luck with them) so I look for online dealers with the best prices. Do a quick search on "Mopar direct" and some reputable dealers will pop up. Still not cheap but better than buying from the local dealer.

Sorry to hear you're having such a hard time. Don't throw in the towel just yet.
 
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Thanks. I appreciate advice learned through experience, and this is great advice. I need to deal with this misfire on the JKU and a complete brake replacement on the TJ all in the same week. At least I'm farming out the TJ brakes.

I saw that each side has a separate kit available, but I didn't see the option to get them assembled.
I'll dig in a bit more soon. I'm a bit overwhelmed right now because I'm too slow.
I have to park everything in the garage every night.
Thank God I work from home & don't have a commute.
 
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Thanks. I appreciate advice learned through experience, and this is great advice. I need to deal with this misfire on the JKU and a complete brake replacement on the TJ all in the same week. At least I'm farming out the TJ brakes.

I saw that each side has a separate kit available, but I didn't see the option to get them assembled.
I'll dig in a bit more soon. I'm a bit overwhelmed right now because I'm too slow.
I have to park everything in the garage every night.
Thank God I work from home & don't have a commute.
When/if you're ready give Chaos Fab Shop a call (https://chaosfabshop.com). They're in Virginia but don't let that stop you. They can get it all pulled together and have them drop-shipped right to your door. I usually do all my own stuff but had them install my PSC Big Bore steering box and system recently and they're the ones who found the issue with my rear shafts. Great shop.

I can totally relate to what you're going through. Had mine down working though a bunch issues during a suspension refresh. I work from home as well. One of the upsides to remote working is not having to worry (much) about your daily being hung up. Dealing with the constant side-eye from my wife as I told her I needed "her" car...whole 'nother issue.
 
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