Hello, new here and a new (used) Jeep owner. So, I bought my wife a 2015 Wrangler Unlimited Sport. One thing that didn't dawn on me to check with the dealership is if there were keys with the lug nuts. I assumed that the key in the center console was all I needed. However, the lug nuts on the spare tire use a completely different lug nut key. Can anyone identify what this is and where to buy one so I can take the spare off when needed? I tried all my standard and metric sockets and nothing comes close to fitting. They're either too big or too small. Thanks!
Need help with spare tire lug nut key
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I’d say take to America’s Tire, they will probably have a key for it. If not can try and hammer on a socket and then use ratchet to remove it.
They do make a tool set to remove locking lug nuts which is an option.
They do make a tool set to remove locking lug nuts which is an option.
Hey thanks for the reply. I just got back from Mr. Tire and they checked it for me. Turns out its a 6 Spline Key and White Knight has it #3800L6. So I just bought one from Amazon. Why the previous owner had 3 different lug nut types makes no sense. They also cut the auto dimming rear view wiring harness, instead of just unplugging it. Didn't find out until I started installing switches for a light bar.
Sounds like a large order of quality matching lugnuts might help a ton.
Can't ID it, but I am going to offer a short rant, in keeping with my position as Official Opinionated Curmudgeonly Old Fart...
Once the tire shop gets them off, toss them in the trash. They're don't do anything other than give you grief.
Here's the thing. YOU need to be able to get them off when a flat leaves you stranded along the highway. Which means you have to have the key available. They're too big to stick in your pocket every day, so just like every other driver you're going to toss it in the glove box or center console. And while I tend to think most criminals are a bit dim (else they'd find a career with a better risk:benefit ratio) they are smart enough to know where to look.
And even without the key, they're trivially simple to defeat. As mentioned, all you need is a hammer and a cheap socket. Since they're not 10mm, the socket won't vanish between uses.
Once the tire shop gets them off, toss them in the trash. They're don't do anything other than give you grief.
Here's the thing. YOU need to be able to get them off when a flat leaves you stranded along the highway. Which means you have to have the key available. They're too big to stick in your pocket every day, so just like every other driver you're going to toss it in the glove box or center console. And while I tend to think most criminals are a bit dim (else they'd find a career with a better risk:benefit ratio) they are smart enough to know where to look.
And even without the key, they're trivially simple to defeat. As mentioned, all you need is a hammer and a cheap socket. Since they're not 10mm, the socket won't vanish between uses.
The six spline lug nuts are extremely common. Heck, I have 3-4 keys in my toolbox/Jeep/wife's car. You can buy them off Amazon, eBay and any auto parts store. It's easier to take them off vs the factory standard fake ones that lose the stamped metal covering and then you get to take a standard nut off. I gave up on McGards and other "quality" theft proof lugnuts. They fail at the most inopportune time - when you need to get them off.
WestCoastDan
JK Enthusiast
I have a locking nut on the spare, but not on any of the other wheels.
Yes, the keyed socket is in the vehicle, along with a 1/2" ratchet and the socket for the others.
If I was having trouble removing one, I would hammer an old socket on it and then get a buddy to hit it with the welder.
Yes, the keyed socket is in the vehicle, along with a 1/2" ratchet and the socket for the others.
If I was having trouble removing one, I would hammer an old socket on it and then get a buddy to hit it with the welder.
I bought these after the tire shop rounded most of the originals. And, at almost 2" tall, they still fit under the axle caps to my wheels and they're easy to get a 3/4" socket on.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B089D9L8G7?tag=jkforum-20
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B089D9L8G7?tag=jkforum-20
I never ever by capped lug nuts & replace them on any car I buy. I hate them as much as @WestCoastDan does cheap battery clamps. 
When I purchased my JK found out when checking out spare spline lug nuts all around . Found the socket key in Center console.
TBH never seen them B4.
Don’t know if stealing wheels & tires is still a thing but not to worried as the watch cat is always on patrol .
I keep mine in my pants to attract the ladies . Lol
Seriously though keep socket in floor storage in back of Jeep . I just keep ‘‘em on as that’s what was there and they work just like any other lug nut .
With a bit of added security just in case . I honestly don’t think hammering on a socket would work all that well considering shape and the torque applied to the lug nut.
I'm not worried about someone stealing my tires. I figure that if a thief is going to go through the trouble, they can probably defeat whatever locking nut is on them anyways.
So, dumb question (x2) time. Why would the previous owner remove the center caps from the rims and why are there an extra set of holes around the rim?
So, dumb question (x2) time. Why would the previous owner remove the center caps from the rims and why are there an extra set of holes around the rim?
WestCoastDan
JK Enthusiast
Center caps were probably lost or broken.
The extra holes allow this wheel to be used for a different bolt pattern. This is pretty common on aftermarket wheels.
Exactly. And I had to mark one of the holes on each of the 5 wheels to line it up with the studs properly. Not fun trying to wrangle a 100lb wheel and tire to get it on the studs right.
WestCoastDan
JK Enthusiast
If it were me, in this situation w/ those wheels, I would probably fab up some flat center caps to keep debris out of those lug nuts.
Looks like flat circles w/ two screw holes would do a lot to keep mud/etc. out of there.
And you could put stickers on them.
Looks like flat circles w/ two screw holes would do a lot to keep mud/etc. out of there.
And you could put stickers on them.
And every sticker adds 5 HP. Everybody knows that.
Those might be Fuel wheels
I’m using Fuel wheels and those bolts around the outer perimeter I’ve seen on more than one Fuel wheel
You can get Center cap
replacements. Not 100 percent sure they are Fuel but look like it .