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    Iowa Anyone in Iowa recognize this Jeep? I'm considering an out of state purchase

    Yeah I really like the Recon. I'm pretty sold on getting a Recon if I can afford it. Unless I decide to get a JL. The price of a JL Rubi is about the same as a Recon and each has pros and cons. But I have concerns about all the electronics in the JL. So the Recon is at the top of my list...
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    Iowa Anyone in Iowa recognize this Jeep? I'm considering an out of state purchase

    Yeah, for the right Jeep at the right price I will travel. The Recon in the photos is about 8 hours from me. But my brother lives about an hour from there so that makes it easier. For my current Jeep I flew out to Washington state to pick it up. I was really nervous about purchaseing...
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    Iowa Anyone in Iowa recognize this Jeep? I'm considering an out of state purchase

    Thanks. Thats kind of what I thought too. Its probably and OK Jeep but I think I want something a little cleaner. I asked for pictures of the underside but the salesman has not sent them out yet. Maybe they will tell more of the story.
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    Iowa Anyone in Iowa recognize this Jeep? I'm considering an out of state purchase

    Yeah I know this is a long shot, I'm looking at buying a Jeep that is at a dealership in Iowa. Its obvious the guy who owned it set it up for some overlanding. So I was hoping to find the owner to see what kind of shape the vehicle is in. Also how bad is the Des Moines area for road salt...
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    Wrangler JKU front end conversion to Defender 110

    I think I have to retract my earlier comment. Seeing the side view of a more finished product, the fender lines don't look as out of place as I thought they would. In fact they seem to line up pretty nicely with the rear window line. So nice job with that. It still looks a little odd to me...
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    Wrangler JKU front end conversion to Defender 110

    Other than the fact that your Jeep is NOT a Defender and the body lines don't line up. Its looks OK if you only look at the front clip alone. But the fact that the fender lines are completely different than the rest of the Jeep really destroy the whole concept. It just looks like a pieced...
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    Need help deciding between JKUR JKUR Recon or JLUR

    Guess I need to read those threads closer to see what all those guys are doing then. Maybe they are driving like idiots. I have zero concerns about the axle shafts. What I keep seeing is that the tubes bend. Many people think its the Cs but everything I have read points to it being the tubes...
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    Need help deciding between JKUR JKUR Recon or JLUR

    Yeah its weird. The JL also uses a "D44" axle and its entirely different than the JK. The JK is also different than the TJ "D44" in that the tubes on the JK are longer. But they are the same diameter. I think Dana 44 has become a marketing term and not just an axle size. So they continue to...
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    Need help deciding between JKUR JKUR Recon or JLUR

    The JL does have the FAD. And its things like that along with the engine start/stop feature and other electronic wizardry that cause me concern about future problems with the JL. I know the JKs have issues with factory ball joints and they are not perfect either. But the thing that causes...
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    Need help deciding between JKUR JKUR Recon or JLUR

    I am only considering a Rubicon. So it would have a D44. I considered doing gussets as insurance. But I thought I had read that they would require additional bumpstop to keep them from hitting on something underneath. (Maybe that was with a full truss?) I do not know how people are bending...
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    Need help deciding between JKUR JKUR Recon or JLUR

    I currently have a 2005 LJ that I plan to keep, but I need a 4 door Wrangler to fit the whole family on overland vacations. Some time in the next year, I expect I will be making a purchase. Until then, I am trying to get my head around all the pros and cons of the JK and maybe a JL. Looking...
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    Should I get a 2017 JK or a 2018 JL?

    @Hotrodguy34 - Congratulations! I somehow missed that you made your purchase. Put in some pictures when you get a chance. I'm probably out a year yet until I make a purchase. So I'll be stuggling through this for a little while yet. But if I was to buy today, I think I would get the JK as...
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    Should I get a 2017 JK or a 2018 JL?

    I've actually looked at that option. A JL Sport can actually be $3,000-$5,000 cheaper than a fully loaded JK Recon. But it is similar in price to a standard JKUR with leather and many other upgraded features. So are you willing to give up lockers, leather and other features to get a new JL...
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    Should I get a 2017 JK or a 2018 JL?

    Like the OP I've been torn between a late model JK or a used JL. I always hated the look of the JK and said I would never buy one. I think the JL is much improved look and I'd rather have a JL. However, as always, cost is an issue. So, like the OP, that leaves me looking at first or 2nd...
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    JK resale value

    I congratulate you as a college student for being responsible to paying your debts and looking to the future. Many people, young and old, can't see past their immediate enjoyment and get way to deep into debt. I don't know all your financial details, so in the end you need to make your own...