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Jeep Wrangler JK
JK General Discussion
Sell jeep 2008 needing repairs ?
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<blockquote data-quote="Creston" data-source="post: 443202" data-attributes="member: 22510"><p>Yeah the 5.4 triton was trash after 150k or so. Coked up top end and rattling timing gears, Honda had issues at mileage too. Gm did with their displacement on demand. All blamed on maintenance but really? Hard to say. Ford has several that blow out plugs too. And their IWE were a problem for many years. Even with low mileage. Ford is notoriously for dragging their feet and just hoping problems go away. Lol. Kind of like dodge with the TIPM issues. When failure rates top 10% you should start pulling plugs and changing course. To me having a year or three with an issue is just going to happen. Having 10 or more with the exact same issue is just Bad management</p><p></p><p>Subaru and Nissan had some terrible cvt transmissions and subaru is hell on head gaskets, axles and wheel bearings... but people fix them. They are all reliable and worth fixing. This year I've put 3 subaru transmission in cars with over 300k. One was a manual. First time I've seen a roo manual fail. Only a Mopar will be sold over such small things these days because People know that if they fix that issue 6 more will pop up.</p><p></p><p>The wrangler is the ONLY vehicle in the wrangler class. That's why the resale. Of gm had kept a small Blazer or made the tracker a bit more serious or if Ford had kept a small bronco, Toyota had shrunk the fj....I dont think it would be this way. And resale is awful on any other Mopar that isn't a limited thing. All blamed on maintenance but really? Hard to say. Ford has several that blow out plugs too. And their IWE were a problem for many years. Even with low mileage. Both of my Mopar were meticulously maintained. Still trash. I see it daily in my shop. One family has a ram, a caravan, and an 18 cherokee. Been Mopar people all their life. Wealthy too. They just bought a Ford and say they will never have another Mopar. I see these stories every day over and over. All three of their vehicle are well maintained. Look new and up until this year we're maintained by the dodge place. If they get a scratch they have it fixed. They are that type. 500 dollar detailing every couple months etc. To much evidence to be anecdotal. I can find a hundred Ford and Gm still working truck with 300k. Back into the 70s and 80s and 90s. IF you see a dodge from the 70s or 80s or 90s is been restored or a Cummins. Lol. And a lot of people don't keep them for 200k. But their second or third owners will. There are simply more vehicles with 200k on the clock from any other brand except maybe jaguar, rover, smart, etc etc. A decent driver will never go to the scrap heap. Someone will have it on the road.</p><p></p><p> Especially bad since Mopar sells as much as anyone. Actually sold more trucks in the 70s. Where are they all? Ford didn't take the number one spot until the 80s. That was dodge. And they are nice vehicles. I spent 6 months looking at new trucks. The Ram is probably the nicest. The 21 f150 is close. (Way ahead of the 14-20 model) The gm is years behind on "nice" alone but is updated for 2022. I bought the F150. If nothing else I know Ford will still be Ford in 5 years. Not China owned. Lol.</p><p></p><p>If I wanted the most reliable, albeit boring, vehicle I'd put my money on Toyota. Lol. I don't own one. But that would be my advice. I've seen more Toyota with over 400k than all other brand combined. Probably GM trucks in second place. And I am not brand loyal. I don't own a single GM nor Toyota. (Wife has a highlander)</p><p>[ATTACH=full]120184[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>That's in no way rare for a Toyota. Lol.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Creston, post: 443202, member: 22510"] Yeah the 5.4 triton was trash after 150k or so. Coked up top end and rattling timing gears, Honda had issues at mileage too. Gm did with their displacement on demand. All blamed on maintenance but really? Hard to say. Ford has several that blow out plugs too. And their IWE were a problem for many years. Even with low mileage. Ford is notoriously for dragging their feet and just hoping problems go away. Lol. Kind of like dodge with the TIPM issues. When failure rates top 10% you should start pulling plugs and changing course. To me having a year or three with an issue is just going to happen. Having 10 or more with the exact same issue is just Bad management Subaru and Nissan had some terrible cvt transmissions and subaru is hell on head gaskets, axles and wheel bearings... but people fix them. They are all reliable and worth fixing. This year I've put 3 subaru transmission in cars with over 300k. One was a manual. First time I've seen a roo manual fail. Only a Mopar will be sold over such small things these days because People know that if they fix that issue 6 more will pop up. The wrangler is the ONLY vehicle in the wrangler class. That's why the resale. Of gm had kept a small Blazer or made the tracker a bit more serious or if Ford had kept a small bronco, Toyota had shrunk the fj....I dont think it would be this way. And resale is awful on any other Mopar that isn't a limited thing. All blamed on maintenance but really? Hard to say. Ford has several that blow out plugs too. And their IWE were a problem for many years. Even with low mileage. Both of my Mopar were meticulously maintained. Still trash. I see it daily in my shop. One family has a ram, a caravan, and an 18 cherokee. Been Mopar people all their life. Wealthy too. They just bought a Ford and say they will never have another Mopar. I see these stories every day over and over. All three of their vehicle are well maintained. Look new and up until this year we're maintained by the dodge place. If they get a scratch they have it fixed. They are that type. 500 dollar detailing every couple months etc. To much evidence to be anecdotal. I can find a hundred Ford and Gm still working truck with 300k. Back into the 70s and 80s and 90s. IF you see a dodge from the 70s or 80s or 90s is been restored or a Cummins. Lol. And a lot of people don't keep them for 200k. But their second or third owners will. There are simply more vehicles with 200k on the clock from any other brand except maybe jaguar, rover, smart, etc etc. A decent driver will never go to the scrap heap. Someone will have it on the road. Especially bad since Mopar sells as much as anyone. Actually sold more trucks in the 70s. Where are they all? Ford didn't take the number one spot until the 80s. That was dodge. And they are nice vehicles. I spent 6 months looking at new trucks. The Ram is probably the nicest. The 21 f150 is close. (Way ahead of the 14-20 model) The gm is years behind on "nice" alone but is updated for 2022. I bought the F150. If nothing else I know Ford will still be Ford in 5 years. Not China owned. Lol. If I wanted the most reliable, albeit boring, vehicle I'd put my money on Toyota. Lol. I don't own one. But that would be my advice. I've seen more Toyota with over 400k than all other brand combined. Probably GM trucks in second place. And I am not brand loyal. I don't own a single GM nor Toyota. (Wife has a highlander) [ATTACH type="full" alt="signal-2021-05-25-083204 (2).jpg"]120184[/ATTACH] That's in no way rare for a Toyota. Lol. [/QUOTE]
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