Sell jeep 2008 needing repairs ?

Absolutely on the smile factor. That was my point. The jeep does things nothing will.in terms of capability or fun My FJ, Z71 and FX4 are more comparable to my mach one than my Rubicon. And the Rubicon isn't stupid bad on road either unless it's been screwed up with poor fitting tires and lift. I took mine to the east coast a few times. Cruise on 80 or 85. Couldn't hear myself think and didn't get to pass up many gas stations but it handled just fine. I took mine to Tellico about a week after I got it. Lol. But even majority of jeep owners (ones who don't trade to keep a warranty) will admit reliability is pretty abysmal. There are a million gm, Ford, and Toyota with 300k that still have miles left. The aforementioned FJ, z71 and fx4 will see 300k. Ive taken engines out of gm and ford and Toyota with 300k and put into other vehicles. No way id take out any Mopar engine made after the LA blocks (318,360) with 300k and offer any warranty. Not even the 4.0 which I like. Usually I'm taking a hemi out of one with 150k and rusted apart and putting into a ram with 150k and a good body. Lol. The last one I did this year was 2 identical ram with 200k one rusted apart. When I pulled the donor I found out that the engine in it was a 360. It already had one engine in 200k. Ive run a shop and my family have car sales lots. It's incredibly rare to see a Mopar (especially a wrangler) that is decent mechanically after 150k unless it's all replaced. Rare to see a subaru, Toyota, Honda, GM, or Ford ( truck based vehicles) fail before 300 Mechanically. A company I deal with builds majority of the emergency vehicles in the USA, and several abroad. They dropped Dodge many years ago. It seems when ambulances are reliable....people get mad. They still have Nissan,GM, Ford and Mercedes.

Things like Tipm, constant head gaskets, misfires and transmission problems have plagued the jeeps since they dropped the 4.0. Coupled with the fact that the company changes hands and new engine transmissions and designs come by the time the first problems are ironed out.... hasn't helped. My little anemic 3.8 has been ok though. And my 6 speed is fine. I drive several old vehicles, many with I beams and straight front axles. Death wobble is just a thing. Lol .

And yeah....buying a used BMW or Rover is about bottom of the barrel. (Or Nissan with CVT) I have a friend who bought an x5 with 200k. Super fun ride. But in two years he has put 10k in parts. Lol. I had a neighbor with a twin turbo v10 (m something) . That sucker was a beast and nice too. He drove a duramax for his reliable car though wife drove a Denali. Lol

I dunno, I just think a lot of it is anecdotal and due to poor maintenance (generally speaking).

Ford certainly had it's issues with the Tritons and their ecoboost. Even Honda with it's VTC actuators.

I'll be the first to admit there are definite issues with the pentastar, and they've made poor choices in the powertrain with the transmissions and/or gearing. Lot of that though is due to modifications with people lifting and sticking on larger tires and expecting it to be fine though.

With about 1% of all vehicles going over 200k annually, we're dealing with a tiny fraction of vehicles anyway. I doubt most people keep cars a lifetime like they used to.

My wife has a mini cooper, so I'm well aware lol. Wanted to buy a samurai sword to commit ritual suicide after replacing the power steering pump, lines, reservoir and cooling fan.
 
Yeah the 5.4 triton was trash after 150k or so. Coked up top end and rattling timing gears, Honda had issues at mileage too. Gm did with their displacement on demand. All blamed on maintenance but really? Hard to say. Ford has several that blow out plugs too. And their IWE were a problem for many years. Even with low mileage. Ford is notoriously for dragging their feet and just hoping problems go away. Lol. Kind of like dodge with the TIPM issues. When failure rates top 10% you should start pulling plugs and changing course. To me having a year or three with an issue is just going to happen. Having 10 or more with the exact same issue is just Bad management

Subaru and Nissan had some terrible cvt transmissions and subaru is hell on head gaskets, axles and wheel bearings... but people fix them. They are all reliable and worth fixing. This year I've put 3 subaru transmission in cars with over 300k. One was a manual. First time I've seen a roo manual fail. Only a Mopar will be sold over such small things these days because People know that if they fix that issue 6 more will pop up.

The wrangler is the ONLY vehicle in the wrangler class. That's why the resale. Of gm had kept a small Blazer or made the tracker a bit more serious or if Ford had kept a small bronco, Toyota had shrunk the fj....I dont think it would be this way. And resale is awful on any other Mopar that isn't a limited thing. All blamed on maintenance but really? Hard to say. Ford has several that blow out plugs too. And their IWE were a problem for many years. Even with low mileage. Both of my Mopar were meticulously maintained. Still trash. I see it daily in my shop. One family has a ram, a caravan, and an 18 cherokee. Been Mopar people all their life. Wealthy too. They just bought a Ford and say they will never have another Mopar. I see these stories every day over and over. All three of their vehicle are well maintained. Look new and up until this year we're maintained by the dodge place. If they get a scratch they have it fixed. They are that type. 500 dollar detailing every couple months etc. To much evidence to be anecdotal. I can find a hundred Ford and Gm still working truck with 300k. Back into the 70s and 80s and 90s. IF you see a dodge from the 70s or 80s or 90s is been restored or a Cummins. Lol. And a lot of people don't keep them for 200k. But their second or third owners will. There are simply more vehicles with 200k on the clock from any other brand except maybe jaguar, rover, smart, etc etc. A decent driver will never go to the scrap heap. Someone will have it on the road.

Especially bad since Mopar sells as much as anyone. Actually sold more trucks in the 70s. Where are they all? Ford didn't take the number one spot until the 80s. That was dodge. And they are nice vehicles. I spent 6 months looking at new trucks. The Ram is probably the nicest. The 21 f150 is close. (Way ahead of the 14-20 model) The gm is years behind on "nice" alone but is updated for 2022. I bought the F150. If nothing else I know Ford will still be Ford in 5 years. Not China owned. Lol.

If I wanted the most reliable, albeit boring, vehicle I'd put my money on Toyota. Lol. I don't own one. But that would be my advice. I've seen more Toyota with over 400k than all other brand combined. Probably GM trucks in second place. And I am not brand loyal. I don't own a single GM nor Toyota. (Wife has a highlander)
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That's in no way rare for a Toyota. Lol.
 
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Yeah the 5.4 triton was trash after 150k or so. Coked up top end and rattling timing gears, Honda had issues at mileage too. Gm did with their displacement on demand. All blamed on maintenance but really? Hard to say. Ford has several that blow out plugs too. And their IWE were a problem for many years. Even with low mileage. Ford is notoriously for dragging their feet and just hoping problems go away. Lol. Kind of like dodge with the TIPM issues. When failure rates top 10% you should start pulling plugs and changing course. To me having a year or three with an issue is just going to happen. Having 10 or more with the exact same issue is just Bad management

Subaru and Nissan had some terrible cvt transmissions and subaru is hell on head gaskets, axles and wheel bearings... but people fix them. They are all reliable and worth fixing. This year I've put 3 subaru transmission in cars with over 300k. One was a manual. First time I've seen a roo manual fail. Only a Mopar will be sold over such small things these days because People know that if they fix that issue 6 more will pop up.

The wrangler is the ONLY vehicle in the wrangler class. That's why the resale. Of gm had kept a small Blazer or made the tracker a bit more serious or if Ford had kept a small bronco, Toyota had shrunk the fj....I dont think it would be this way. And resale is awful on any other Mopar that isn't a limited thing. All blamed on maintenance but really? Hard to say. Ford has several that blow out plugs too. And their IWE were a problem for many years. Even with low mileage. Both of my Mopar were meticulously maintained. Still trash. I see it daily in my shop. One family has a ram, a caravan, and an 18 cherokee. Been Mopar people all their life. Wealthy too. They just bought a Ford and say they will never have another Mopar. I see these stories every day over and over. All three of their vehicle are well maintained. Look new and up until this year we're maintained by the dodge place. If they get a scratch they have it fixed. They are that type. 500 dollar detailing every couple months etc. To much evidence to be anecdotal. I can find a hundred Ford and Gm still working truck with 300k. Back into the 70s and 80s and 90s. IF you see a dodge from the 70s or 80s or 90s is been restored or a Cummins. Lol. And a lot of people don't keep them for 200k. But their second or third owners will. There are simply more vehicles with 200k on the clock from any other brand except maybe jaguar, rover, smart, etc etc. A decent driver will never go to the scrap heap. Someone will have it on the road.

Especially bad since Mopar sells as much as anyone. Actually sold more trucks in the 70s. Where are they all? Ford didn't take the number one spot until the 80s. That was dodge. And they are nice vehicles. I spent 6 months looking at new trucks. The Ram is probably the nicest. The 21 f150 is close. (Way ahead of the 14-20 model) The gm is years behind on "nice" alone but is updated for 2022. I bought the F150. If nothing else I know Ford will still be Ford in 5 years. Not China owned. Lol.

If I wanted the most reliable, albeit boring, vehicle I'd put my money on Toyota. Lol. I don't own one. But that would be my advice. I've seen more Toyota with over 400k than all other brand combined. Probably GM trucks in second place. And I am not brand loyal. I don't own a single GM nor Toyota. (Wife has a highlander)
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That's in no way rare for a Toyota. Lol.

Yeah I think they tested Camry's by dropping nukes on them before selling them.

Just wouldn't want to be spotted driving one lol
 
Yeah I think they tested Camry's by dropping nukes on them before selling them.

Just wouldn't want to be spotted driving one lol
I put water pumps and wheel bearings in them. The 3.5 v6 usually. But they do go forever. Real pia to change the back 3 plugs. Cowl, wipers, and intake manifold have to come off. Front 3 plugs take 35 seconds each Lol. Water pump is no easy task either. I just wear sunglasses and a hoodie when I drive my wife's highlander. Most comfortable vehicle I've driven for long trips and I've had 2 Denali and my 2021 truck. Gas mileage is around 18 though. Nothing special. My 5.3 Denali and my new 5.0 got better. But 200k terrible free miles. My 5.0 has 2k on it now and I'd bet parts of my anatomy that I'm quite fond of that it has major work before 200k. Id also bet it does better than either of my Mopar. Time will tell though. I can see it going 200 more. There isn't a single thing wrong with it. The last time I took the jeep I averaged 14 going and 10 coming back. Stock 4.10 gears and 33 inch tires. Our v10 gets 12 both ways. Lol. My mustang gets 27 ish but it's idling at 80 in high gear. Around home it gets 17 or so. Lol Jeep and mustang are manual trans.

I strongly considered a v8 tundra. If I had found one in stock I'd have likely ended up with one instead of my 5.0. But they killed the v8 for 22 and 21s are non existent.

Other than starters and rust I've not seen much issue with the tundra. Starter is pretty dumb though. Under the intake manifold like a Northstar v8. Lol
 
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What's the cost of putting a Cummins in a JK. Can I keep the same axles if I want? I just regeared them for my 35" tires
 
If I was doing my own, my shop, free labor I could probably get it done for 2 or 2500. I can't imagine most shops would do it correctly for a lot less than 7500 maybe 10. You could keep a lot of parts if you idled around and didn't use it. If you wanted to wheel it would probably be cheaper to find a broken down power wagon or something and swap out all of it.

I put a vortec 7400 in an 85 c10 the other day. Customer kept the 700r4 and the factory rear. Running 295 tires. Lol. If he gets on it about one time It will break and I'll be back into it. But the cost was kept down. It's All up to what you want to do with it. Same for the 4bt swap. If you want to drive to work and the mall then it could be done good enough cheaper. If you want it right and usable then it's going to be expensive
 
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