was in the ‘hills’ outside of Alamogordo, NM on Veterans Day in 2016! I was the lead Jeep with the guide/spotter riding shotgun! He gave me a ‘degree’ with the education he provided me!
I think once you take a stock JK / JKU off-road for the first time (especially a Rubicon model), you begin to realize that even in stock form it's very, very capable.