How to install a smart mirror in your JK Wrangler

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On todays episode of Getting Dirty with the Dog, we're going to install a Rearview Mirror/Dash Cam/Backup Camera Thingy.

I'm your host, Rowdy, and I might have a caffeine problem.
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Let's get started.

I'm pretty sure that nobody, ever, anywhere in the world, has said "man, the visibility out the rear of these JK Wranglers is awesome!" Between the glass-mounted rear wiper motor, spare tire, and 3rd brake light, it's pretty crowded back there. Relocating the brake light to accommodate larger wheels and tires doesn't exactly help.
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So what to do? As usual, the aftermarket has answers.

There are a number of high-end cars on or coming to market that replace all of the mirrors with cameras. Even budget-minded Kia is joining in. So after some time spent researching, I ordered THIS. The Wolfbox G840S. As usual, I will talk about installing this specific item, but other models or brands will likely be very similar.
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The G840S currently sells for $120 on Amazon. It provides front and rear HD cameras, GPS compass, speed, and location information (but not navigation), loop recording, and has impact sensors to trigger recording of events when the vehicle is parked. The box comes with everything needed for an installation - the smart mirror and mounting straps, GPS antenna, rear camera and cable, power outlet adapter, a trim panel tool, and a fairly well done owners manual.

My immediate thought was "why the heck would anybody install this and plug it into the power outlet? This is clearly intended as a permanent installation, so doesn't hard wiring it make more sense?" The owners manual deals with this. Just send an email to the included address with your Amazon (or whatever) order number and they will send you a free hardwire kit. That's nice, but it does mean waiting. It took 5 days to get that kit. You could certainly use the power outlet adapter while you wait, but I don't like kludges. So, that was the first delay. I did suggest to Wolfbox in my email that they consider replacing the adapter with the hardwire kit as the default or, better yet, include both options in the box. That's my first suggestion for improvement.
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I don't know what the installation instructions say to do first, because I'm a Macho He-Man, so I never read them.

My first step was running the power. To get the wiring into the engine bay, use the trim removal tool to pop out the panel on the passenger side of the dash. If you don't have one, you can use a small flathead screwdriver, but be careful not to damage the panel. At the top of the space behind this panel, you will see a hole that has been filled with expanding foam. This provides an easy way to pass wires out of the passenger compartment. There is one of these on the drivers side too, if you ever need access on that side.
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There are, obviously, multiple methods of getting wires through here. My solution was very high tech. I poked it with a sharp stick.

The hole is maybe 1/2" in diameter. The power wire has two fuse connections on the end. I taped them to the stick, but the resulting bundle was too thick to pass through the hole. So I taped the middle of the wire to the stick, pulled that bundle through, and then pulled the rest of the wire through.
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At this point, let me caution you to be sure which end you're taping to the stick. Because if, after wiggling and jiggling to get the connection end through the little hole, you discover that you just pulled the USB-C end through into the engine bay, you're going to feel stupid. Don't ask how I know, just take my word for it.

The mirror needs to be on when you're driving, so it needs a switched power source. But in order to shut down everything except the impact sensor recording, it also needs a constant source. It does have a power level sensor, so if your battery drops to 11V it will turn off to avoid leaving you stranded with a dead battery. The hardwire kit includes two fuses to make these connections. They are, unfortunately, not the sort that allow you to piggyback on an existing fuse. Nor can they be replaced. If they blow, you will need to splice in a replacement. This is my second suggestion to the folks at Wolfbox.

So we need two empty fuse slots. The JK TIPM is not exactly packed with empty fuse slots. You could replace the fuse in an existing circuit, but you'd need to be certain that the combined load was lower than the single fuse.

I spent some time reading the diagram and confirming things with my multimeter, and I ended up using M4 (constant) and M9 (switched). Your mileage may vary. Check your local listings. Void where prohibited. In the picture, you can also see the much nicer, dual fuse piggyback connector supplied by Voswitch.
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There is a small power converter circuit box on the cable to drop the vehicles 12V power to the 5V used by the mirror. Installed the way I did it, this box ends up inside the cabin, behind the end panel of the dash. If you come from the engine bay into the cabin, it'll be right behind your battery. I used a couple zip ties to secure it so it wouldn't rattle. Then run the USB-C end of the cable (the one you DID NOT run into the engine bay by mistake...) up behind the A Pillar trim and across the top of the windshield, tucking it behind the trim as you go. I found this easier to do if I unhooked the front of the Freedom Panel. No need to remove it, just disconnect the front edge so you can lift it enough for your sausage fingers to fit in there.

While you're in there, mount the GPS antenna. I used 3M foam tape to stick it on the dash, right next to the passenger A pillar. Run the wire right alongside the power wire.
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Next up: the rear camera. It can be mounted pretty much anywhere you like. I think it is most commonly placed above the rear license plate, but since the JK plate is way over to the side, this seems less than ideal. I have seen people mount cameras on the third brake pedestal, aimed through the wheel. My choice was centered on the roof, under the rear light bar. I used the supplied 3M double sided tape to mount it, then used that as a template to drill a couple screw holes. The hardtop is two layers with a gap between them at the rear, so there is no concern for the screws poking into the rear of the cabin. The foam tape should seal just fine, but I also put a dab of clear silicone on both screws. No leaks allowed. I then used a hole saw to provide passage for the wire into the cabin. I drilled this a few inches forward, where the hardtop is single layer. Because lining up the holes in the double layer part would be a pain. I used a rubber grommet to seal the hole, and I filled the top with clear silicone. Again, no leaks allowed.
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Now we need to run the video cable from the camera to the mirror. I've been through this a couple times, wiring the rear light bars on our Jeeps, and it's not difficult. The OEM wiring for the wiper motor and such comes down the drivers side and under the carpeting. I've read a lot of how-to articles that recommend taking off the plastic trim around the rear down-leg of the roll cage. Don't bother. You can just pop the carpeting out from under the lip of the body and get enough room. Route the cable up into the rear seat floor, then put the carpet back in place. From the rear floorboard, use your fingers and a trim tool or screwdriver to tuck the wire under the plastic door sills. At the front, tuck it behind the kick panel. Pop out the end panel of the dash (just like you did on the passenger side for power) and run the wire up through that, behind the A pillar trim, and across the top of the windscreen.
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Just FYI, that's my Hi Lift jack mount in that picture. Super nice. And since it's inside, I don't worry about the jack growing legs while I'm in a parking lot.
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That's not a How To I intend to write. If you can't manage that install without a guide, you shouldn't be driving.

Now it's time to mount the heart and soul of the thing - the Smart Mirror. The mirror has a forward facing camera mounted on the drivers side. This means it is somewhat wider than the OEM mirror, and that it will be mounted offset to the drivers side to allow for the camera. It is mounted over your existing mirror using what are, basically, rubber bands. That doesn't sound very secure, but if you look at the unboxing photo, you will see that they are actually pretty robust rubber bands. If they stretch over time, they will be easy to replace. If that happens, I will think of a better way. Once mounted, you just need to plug in the three cables and you're good to go.
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Across the top from left to right, you will find the USB-C power socket, the rear camera socket, a slot containing a 32Gb memory card, and the GPS antenna socket. At this point, there are a couple details to note.

The USB-C power cable, which we ran from the passenger side (because that's where the TIPM is) needs to go to the left. No worries, there's plenty of cable. But... it has a 90 degree bend, so the cable will not stick up. That's great. Except that the cable MUST come from the left. Otherwise the 90 degree bend covers the socket for the rear camera cable. I wasn't going to re-route everything, so I looped the wire around. A couple zip ties will clean it all up when I'm done. Next, the rear camera cable. This also has a 90 degree bend. We know the power cable interferes on the drivers side, so I have it coming in from slightly to the rear of mirror. It would interfere with access to the memory card slot if it came from the passenger side. Finally, the GPS antenna plugs in. My third suggestion to the folks at Wolfbox is to maybe rethink these sockets.

So with everything plugged in, it's time to power it up. Wait. No rear camera detected? What? So I start looking. Turns out the plug for the camera is... not right. I e-mailed Wolfbox. I freely admitted that I didn't know if I had stepped on it or something stupid during the install, and offered to pay for a replacement. They said no worries and mailed me another cable. That meant another week waiting. Fortunately, you can turn off the smart mirror (or unplug the power) and it is a perfectly good conventional rearview mirror.
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Once the replacement cable arrived, I simply used the old one to pull the new one through and plugged it in. And I will say I am very impressed.
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The rear camera has a wide angle lens. The field of view is wide enough that it pretty effectively eliminates blind spots. By the time the rear bumper of the average size vehicle disappears from the mirror, the front of the car is at your outside mirror. You can see it from your peripheral vision. This is wonderful. It does mean it'll take some practice judging distance for objects behind you. You can adjust the aim of the camera some by swiping on the mirror, so I am going to experiment a bit. I think if I aim the camera down a little more, swiping down will allow me to see the spare tire, which will simplify depth perception.

I finished the install just in time to go see the Great Lyric Poet and Philosopher Rodney Carrington perform. If you're so uncultured as to not know this mans work, he's the brilliant mind behind such classics as Show Them To Me, the romantic ballad Burning Sensation, the thoughtful and philosophical Titties & Beer, and the unforgettable Dear Penis. So I didn't take the above photo until after. It was taken in a dark parking lot and shows how good the cameras night vision is.

Over all, 5 stars. Would definitely recommend. Same for the mirror.

[Edited to update]

The rear camera mount is quite adjustable. I tilted it down one notch. This provided a great image in the rearview.
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And dragging my finger top to bottom on the mirror makes it easy to judge distance.
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On todays episode of Getting Dirty with the Dog, we're going to install a Rearview Mirror/Dash Cam/Backup Camera Thingy.

I'm your host, Rowdy, and I might have a caffeine problem.
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Let's get started.

I'm pretty sure that nobody, ever, anywhere in the world, has said "man, the visibility out the rear of these JK Wranglers is awesome!" Between the glass-mounted rear wiper motor, spare tire, and 3rd brake light, it's pretty crowded back there. Relocating the brake light to accommodate larger wheels and tires doesn't exactly help.
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So what to do? As usual, the aftermarket has answers.

There are a number of high-end cars on or coming to market that replace all of the mirrors with cameras. Even budget-minded Kia is joining in. So after some time spent researching, I ordered THIS. The Wolfbox G840S. As usual, I will talk about installing this specific item, but other models or brands will likely be very similar.
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The G840S currently sells for $120 on Amazon. It provides front and rear HD cameras, GPS compass, speed, and location information (but not navigation), loop recording, and has impact sensors to trigger recording of events when the vehicle is parked. The box comes with everything needed for an installation - the smart mirror and mounting straps, GPS antenna, rear camera and cable, power outlet adapter, a trim panel tool, and a fairly well done owners manual.

My immediate thought was "why the heck would anybody install this and plug it into the power outlet? This is clearly intended as a permanent installation, so doesn't hard wiring it make more sense?" The owners manual deals with this. Just send an email to the included address with your Amazon (or whatever) order number and they will send you a free hardwire kit. That's nice, but it does mean waiting. It took 5 days to get that kit. You could certainly use the power outlet adapter while you wait, but I don't like kludges. So, that was the first delay. I did suggest to Wolfbox in my email that they consider replacing the adapter with the hardwire kit as the default or, better yet, include both options in the box. That's my first suggestion for improvement.
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I don't know what the installation instructions say to do first, because I'm a Macho He-Man, so I never read them.

My first step was running the power. To get the wiring into the engine bay, use the trim removal tool to pop out the panel on the passenger side of the dash. If you don't have one, you can use a small flathead screwdriver, but be careful not to damage the panel. At the top of the space behind this panel, you will see a hole that has been filled with expanding foam. This provides an easy way to pass wires out of the passenger compartment. There is one of these on the drivers side too, if you ever need access on that side.
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There are, obviously, multiple methods of getting wires through here. My solution was very high tech. I poked it with a sharp stick.

The hole is maybe 1/2" in diameter. The power wire has two fuse connections on the end. I taped them to the stick, but the resulting bundle was too thick to pass through the hole. So I taped the middle of the wire to the stick, pulled that bundle through, and then pulled the rest of the wire through.
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At this point, let me caution you to be sure which end you're taping to the stick. Because if, after wiggling and jiggling to get the connection end through the little hole, you discover that you just pulled the USB-C end through into the engine bay, you're going to feel stupid. Don't ask how I know, just take my word for it.

The mirror needs to be on when you're driving, so it needs a switched power source. But in order to shut down everything except the impact sensor recording, it also needs a constant source. It does have a power level sensor, so if your battery drops to 11V it will turn off to avoid leaving you stranded with a dead battery. The hardwire kit includes two fuses to make these connections. They are, unfortunately, not the sort that allow you to piggyback on an existing fuse. Nor can they be replaced. If they blow, you will need to splice in a replacement. This is my second suggestion to the folks at Wolfbox.

So we need two empty fuse slots. The JK TIPM is not exactly packed with empty fuse slots. You could replace the fuse in an existing circuit, but you'd need to be certain that the combined load was lower than the single fuse.

I spent some time reading the diagram and confirming things with my multimeter, and I ended up using M4 (constant) and M9 (switched). Your mileage may vary. Check your local listings. Void where prohibited. In the picture, you can also see the much nicer, dual fuse piggyback connector supplied by Voswitch.
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There is a small power converter circuit box on the cable to drop the vehicles 12V power to the 5V used by the mirror. Installed the way I did it, this box ends up inside the cabin, behind the end panel of the dash. If you come from the engine bay into the cabin, it'll be right behind your battery. I used a couple zip ties to secure it so it wouldn't rattle. Then run the USB-C end of the cable (the one you DID NOT run into the engine bay by mistake...) up behind the A Pillar trim and across the top of the windshield, tucking it behind the trim as you go. I found this easier to do if I unhooked the front of the Freedom Panel. No need to remove it, just disconnect the front edge so you can lift it enough for your sausage fingers to fit in there.

While you're in there, mount the GPS antenna. I used 3M foam tape to stick it on the dash, right next to the passenger A pillar. Run the wire right alongside the power wire.
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Next up: the rear camera. It can be mounted pretty much anywhere you like. I think it is most commonly placed above the rear license plate, but since the JK plate is way over to the side, this seems less than ideal. I have seen people mount cameras on the third brake pedestal, aimed through the wheel. My choice was centered on the roof, under the rear light bar. I used the supplied 3M double sided tape to mount it, then used that as a template to drill a couple screw holes. The hardtop is two layers with a gap between them at the rear, so there is no concern for the screws poking into the rear of the cabin. The foam tape should seal just fine, but I also put a dab of clear silicone on both screws. No leaks allowed. I then used a hole saw to provide passage for the wire into the cabin. I drilled this a few inches forward, where the hardtop is single layer. Because lining up the holes in the double layer part would be a pain. I used a rubber grommet to seal the hole, and I filled the top with clear silicone. Again, no leaks allowed.
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Now we need to run the video cable from the camera to the mirror. I've been through this a couple times, wiring the rear light bars on our Jeeps, and it's not difficult. The OEM wiring for the wiper motor and such comes down the drivers side and under the carpeting. I've read a lot of how-to articles that recommend taking off the plastic trim around the rear down-leg of the roll cage. Don't both. You can just pop the carpeting out from under the lip of the body and get enough room. Route the cable up into the rear seat floor, then put the carpet back in place. From the rear floorboard, use your fingers and a trim tool or screwdriver to tuck the wire under the plastic door sills. At the front, tuck it behind the kick panel. Pop out the end panel of the dash (just like you did on the passenger side for power) and run the wire up through that, behind the A pillar trim, and across the top of the windscreen.
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Just FYI, that's my Hi Lift jack mount in that picture. Super nice. And since it's inside, I don't worry about the jack growing legs while I'm in a parking lot.
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That's not a How To I intend to write. If you can't manage that install without a guide, you shouldn't be driving.

Now it's time to mount the heart and soul of the thing - the Smart Mirror. The mirror has a forward facing camera mounted on the drivers side. This means it is somewhat wider than the OEM mirror, and that it will be mounted offset to the drivers side to allow for the camera. It is mounted over your existing mirror using what are, basically, rubber bands. That doesn't sound very secure, but if you look at the unboxing photo, you will see that they are actually pretty robust rubber bands. If they stretch over time, they will be easy to replace. If that happens, I will think of a better way. Once mounted, you just need to plug in the three cables and you're good to go.
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Across the top from left to right, you will find the USB-C power socket, the rear camera socket, a slot containing a 32Gb memory card, and the GPS antenna socket. At this point, there are a couple details to note.

The USB-C power cable, which we ran from the passenger side (because that's where the TIPM is) needs to go to the left. No worries, there's plenty of cable. But... it has a 90 degree bend, so the cable will not stick up. That's great. Except that the cable MUST come from the left. Otherwise the 90 degree bend covers the socket for the rear camera cable. I wasn't going to re-route everything, so I looped the wire around. A couple zip ties will clean it all up when I'm done. Next, the rear camera cable. This also has a 90 degree bend. We know the power cable interferes on the drivers side, so I have it coming in from slightly to the rear of mirror. It would interfere with access to the memory card slot if it came from the passenger side. Finally, the GPS antenna plugs in. My third suggestion to the folks at Wolfbox is to maybe rethink these sockets.

So with everything plugged in, it's time to power it up. Wait. No rear camera detected? What? So I start looking. Turns out the plug for the camera is... not right. I e-mailed Wolfbox. I freely admitted that I didn't know if I had stepped on it or something stupid during the install, and offered to pay for a replacement. They said no worries and mailed me another cable. That meant another week waiting. Fortunately, you can turn off the smart mirror (or unplug the power) and it is a perfectly good conventional rearview mirror.
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Once the replacement cable arrived, I simply used the old one to pull the new one through and plugged it in. And I will say I am very impressed.
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The rear camera has a wide angle lens. The field of view is wide enough that it pretty effectively eliminates blind spots. By the time the rear bumper of the average size vehicle disappears from the mirror, the front of the car is at your outside mirror. You can see it from your peripheral vision. This is wonderful. It does mean it'll take some practice judging distance for objects behind you. You can adjust the aim of the camera some by swiping on the mirror, so I am going to experiment a bit. I think if I aim the camera down a little more, swiping down will allow me to see the spare tire, which will simplify depth perception.

I finished the install just in time to go see the Great Lyric Poet and Philosopher Rodney Carrington perform. If you're so uncultured as to not know this mans work, he's the brilliant mind behind such classics as Show Them To Me, the romantic ballad Burning Sensation, the thoughtful and philosophical Titties & Beer, and the unforgettable Dear Penis. So I didn't take the above photo until after. It was taken in a dark parking lot and shows how good the cameras night vision is.

Over all, 5 stars. Would definitely recommend. Same for the mirror.

[Edited to update]

The rear camera mount is quite adjustable. I tilted it down one notch. This provided a great image in the rearview.
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And dragging my finger top to bottom on the mirror makes it easy to judge distance.
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Now, do not take this personally, but my Nut Job Doggy has been on Rabbits all day (fall swamp and brush). Rowdy looks like he could have tea with the Queen. ( F--- King Now). Yes Jealousy. And I have great rear view back up, in the black pitch at night here. That said. I shall read the rest of your ( War and Peace ) post before I send a like. Good Times.
 
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Great write up, thanks for sharing. I am curious why the plug-in adapter can’t just be cut off and wired to power? I happen to have a Powerex box which turns off the power to any device after a set time, or if the battery voltage drops below a certain voltage. When the engine starts the box puts power through, I am wondering if I could just tap into that to power the mirror rather than getting into the fuse box. Currently I have the box to turn off power at 15 minutes. I had it at 3 minutes but that was getting annoying with my GMSR radio basically shutting off every time I turned the engine off.
 
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Great write up, thanks for sharing. I am curious why the plug-in adapter can’t just be cut off and wired to power? I happen to have a Powerex box which turns off the power to any device after a set time, or if the battery voltage drops below a certain voltage. When the engine starts the box puts power through, I am wondering if I could just tap into that to power the mirror rather than getting into the fuse box. Currently I have the box to turn off power at 15 minutes. I had it at 3 minutes but that was getting annoying with my GMSR radio basically shutting off every time I turned the engine off.
Yes you can. I have mine wired into the spot switch that I just turn it on/off at will.
 
Great write up, thanks for sharing. I am curious why the plug-in adapter can’t just be cut off and wired to power?
The adapter incorporates a 12V-5V stepdown converter. Cut that off, and your $120 mirror will be unhappy. Briefly... You could get around this by buying a converter and installing it in-line between the mirror and the power source. But now you've just paid for something the manufacturer will give you free. Or you could breadboard your own power converter...

I happen to have a Powerex box which turns off the power to any device after a set time, or if the battery voltage drops below a certain voltage. When the engine starts the box puts power through, I am wondering if I could just tap into that to power the mirror rather than getting into the fuse box. Currently I have the box to turn off power at 15 minutes. I had it at 3 minutes but that was getting annoying with my GMSR radio basically shutting off every time I turned the engine off.
I'm sure you could wire it to there (after dealing with that pesky voltage issue). But the Wolfbox harness includes a voltage cutoff. Everything except the event recorder shuts off when you turn the vehicle off. If the battery drops to 11 volts, the event recorder will shut off as well. I was curious, so I checked. With the event recorder running, the parasitic draw is less than 50Ma. With a 72AH car battery, that means you can drain the battery in a mere 60 days. Dropping to 11V will take about 4 days.
Your suggestion would defeat the event recording feature completely. If I didn't want that enabled, I would stop after making the switched power connection.
 
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Great write up, thanks for sharing. I am curious why the plug-in adapter can’t just be cut off and wired to power? I happen to have a Powerex box which turns off the power to any device after a set time, or if the battery voltage drops below a certain voltage. When the engine starts the box puts power through, I am wondering if I could just tap into that to power the mirror rather than getting into the fuse box. Currently I have the box to turn off power at 15 minutes. I had it at 3 minutes but that was getting annoying with my GMSR radio basically shutting off every time I turned the engine off.
I meant to mention this in my previous reply, but it slipped my mind.
The Wrangler has a built in power-off delay that you can program from your steering wheel controls. I'm a big fan of the aftermarket, but why not use this feature?
 
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I meant to mention this in my previous reply, but it slipped my mind.
The Wrangler has a built in power-off delay that you can program from your steering wheel controls. I'm a big fan of the aftermarket, but why not use this feature?
Didn’t know it existed unless you are referring to the setting that’s can be adjusted that sets the timer for how long thinags stay on like the radio. The reason would be is I am pulling power directly from the battery so I don’t think that timer would work.
 
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Didn’t know it existed unless you are referring to the setting that’s can be adjusted that sets the timer for how long thinags stay on like the radio. The reason would be is I am pulling power directly from the battery so I don’t think that timer would work.
That's the one. For it to work, you'd need to tap into one of the timed circuits.
 
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@Dirty Dog how is it at night? I mean, I like the idea of a clear image, but there is a big difference between reflected light (normal mirror) and projected light (just about any screen). Is it too bright, if you know what I mean? In the city it may not be much of an issue, but where I live its a bit more of the country and I can't count all the deer strikes I've had/seen. I wouldn't want to trade forward night vision for rear visibility. I like the idea of this, especially for the parking lot morons, but just not sure if I want more light pollution in the cab.
 
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@JerryD, It's great. You can adjust the brightness using the touchscreen, but it's a smart mirror with night vision. It does a better job of handling lights behind you than a conventional mirror, or even the auto-dimming mirror my Rubi came with.
We're rural. A house on a 1 acre plot is considered small. Our neighbors are prairie dogs, coyote, eagles, antelope, fox... The guy (way) behind us has horses and goats. I've gone out in the morning to find a rooster sitting on my hood.

The one idiosyncrasy I have found is aiming it.
It works perfectly well as a conventional mirror. I drove it that way while waiting for a cable to be sent. But what I found is that in bright sunlight, from certain angles, you can get a sort of doubled image. The screen plus the overlaid conventional mirror. That's sort of weird. The solution, of course, is simple. Don't adjust it like a mirror. Just point the screen straight back or whatever to eliminate that ghost image. You can see the screen perfectly well from pretty much anywhere.

I really don't think you will have any issue at all with light pollution.
 
@Dirty Dog cool beans. I commend Rowdy on his accessory selection and review. :cool:

I think I'll look at the one with the license plate mount to make it a bit easier for me. I put my plate on my spare a while ago and would be a nice addition. Although it might seem weird actually seeing behind me for a change.
 
@Dirty Dog cool beans. I commend Rowdy on his accessory selection and review. :cool:
He's the bestest boy!
I think I'll look at the one with the license plate mount to make it a bit easier for me. I put my plate on my spare a while ago and would be a nice addition. Although it might seem weird actually seeing behind me for a change.
I'm not sure if that will actually be any easier. The license plate mount means a couple screws. The camera mounts with 3M foam tape and/or a couple screws. You will use the OEM grommet for the brake light wires to pass the wire inside. I drilled a hole and put in a grommet, but I could just as easily have tucked it into the rubber window trim if I didn't want to drill. You will run the wire up the passenger side instead of the drivers. Seems like a pretty easy install whichever way you do it.
 
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@Dirty Dog when you installed these did you have to remove the pillar trim, along the side of the windshield or were you able to just drop / feed the cables down from the top? Picked up one for my wife’s and mine Jeep. Hoping when the install time comes I can feed the cable through without removing the pillar trim. I have grab handles installed and for some reason getting the bolts in that hold them were a pain in the rear so prefer not to remove them if I don’t need to. Thanks in advance.
 
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@Dirty Dog when you installed these did you have to remove the pillar trim, along the side of the windshield or were you able to just drop / feed the cables down from the top? Picked up one for my wife’s and mine Jeep. Hoping when the install time comes I can feed the cable through without removing the pillar trim. I have grab handles installed and for some reason getting the bolts in that hold them were a pain in the rear so prefer not to remove them if I don’t need to. Thanks in advance.
Uninstalling and reinstalling things for no good reason builds character. Suck it up, buttercup.

:D
 
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@Dirty Dog when you installed these did you have to remove the pillar trim, along the side of the windshield or were you able to just drop / feed the cables down from the top? Picked up one for my wife’s and mine Jeep. Hoping when the install time comes I can feed the cable through without removing the pillar trim. I have grab handles installed and for some reason getting the bolts in that hold them were a pain in the rear so prefer not to remove them if I don’t need to. Thanks in advance.
The only trim I removed was the panel on the side of the dash. There's plenty of room to just tuck the wire in behind the A-Pillar trim, as well as across the top of the windscreen trim. I did find it easier to tuck across the top if I released the windscreen latches on the Freedom Panels. I did not remove them. I just unclipped the front and pushed up a tiny bit.
 
The only trim I removed was the panel on the side of the dash. There's plenty of room to just tuck the wire in behind the A-Pillar trim, as well as across the top of the windscreen trim. I did find it easier to tuck across the top if I released the windscreen latches on the Freedom Panels. I did not remove them. I just unclipped the front and pushed up a tiny bit.
Thank you very much, was hoping that was the case. I just need to figure out where to mount the camera, not sure I want to do on the top like you did. I may try and find a location in the bumper, mine is the Rubi HR and my wife’s has a aftermarket steel bumper which is a little thicker so may be more tricky. Her tire rack swings out away from the Jeep.

PS - do you know if the GPS is required to be connected / installed? I am not sure if I want that piece of equipment installed.
 
Thank you very much, was hoping that was the case. I just need to figure out where to mount the camera, not sure I want to do on the top like you did. I may try and find a location in the bumper, mine is the Rubi HR and my wife’s has a aftermarket steel bumper which is a little thicker so may be more tricky. Her tire rack swings out away from the Jeep.
I think you can mount it anywhere. If it's off-center, then so will your image be, of course. That's partly why I chose the roof.
PS - do you know if the GPS is required to be connected / installed? I am not sure if I want that piece of equipment installed.
It is not. If it's connected, it displays your location, direction of travel, and speed on the screen. If it's not, it doesn't. Everything else functions the same.
 
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Just installed the Wolfbox last night. Must say, smoother than expected. I ordered the refurbished unit which did not come with the hardwired kit but I will be ordering that separately.
Mounted the rear camera on the relocated license plate (swing arm, center tire). Came out with a spare 1/2" of cable for the camera wire;)

Its quite a difference what I can see out the back window now. 37s don't leave much open window space.
@Dirty Dog thanks for the write up. Helped the decision and install.